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Wednesday, December 21st, 2005
2:52 am
[sgt_mustacho]
What Would Jesus Want for Christmas?
Hello, hope all is going well. I hope you all are surviving the dreadful madness which we call the Holiday Shopping Season(used to be Christmas Shopping Season, but since we live in a politically correct time period this is what I will refer to the period as, sorry for any inconveniences. Thank you!) I am surviving without being trampled on because I am buying everything at the local Meijer store during the not so busy hours of the day. Already, I have bought most of my gifts and they all together should retail under $75 which is pretty darn good. Other than that, I am eagerly awaiting the return of my brother from Germany, and waiting for the madness to end, and hopefully get a phone call soon about working for the local newspaper in my area. Other than that, everything is fine.
A question, if this holiday that we call Christmas is really about Christ's birthday, then why is it we hear no one in particularly in the Christian community ever talk about what would Jesus want for Christmas (WWJWC), nice acronym, hey; since Christians talk about WWJD (I do not have to write it out do I. I always wonder that is it possible that he would not wanted anything at all because he was a extremely benevolent man, or a perfect man to believers that was so modest that he would'nt want anything. If Jesus were alive, I would probably go to Home Depot and rob it and get whatever he needs since he is a carpenter, and has the power to create anything. Then I expect him to go inside and not only create replacements of the stolen items but just by his presence alone will enable the store staff whom many of them probably admirers/believers will allow him to get away with it since he is God and can send all of them to Hell if he wants to. However he may condemn my actions but hey he allegedly is God after all, so you can rob for God, or even kill for God which the people of the Book have been doing for thousands of years.
That reminds me the "Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine gave me a whole new outlook on the Bible in particularly the Old Testament which is not written by people other than those who purported to have written them but they written years after, for example the Book of Samuel continues after the death of Samuel, and Samuel wrote it, kinda silly huh. Any how back to my initial statement, the Old Testament according to Paine is nothing but violence-blood and gore in all, now the New Testament is'nt so violent because Jesus seemed to be an awfully nice fellow to get along with. It's a shame that the Romans and the Sadducees had to kill him because he was not only a nice guy but happened to be a good teacher of men. However they thought he was a nut-case and he probably was for that time like Socrates was for his time or Joan of Arc for her time, and Martin L. King Jr. for his time. It is of my strongest opinion, nut-cases move and drive the engine of history for us all, they are our leaders and visionaries.In the end, Paine concludes that the Bible is no more than an anthology of violent hear-say, not revelation which many are led to believe since the beginings of the Bible around the time of the 4th Century AD . Personally, I take Paine's view.
It appears that I have ran out of time, I shall talk to you all later. Love you all! Ciao!
Tuesday, December 20th, 2005
6:01 pm
[owenkellogg]
A Christmas Sermon - Robert Ingersoll
The good part of Christmas is not always Christian -- it is generally Pagan; that is to say, human, natural.

Christianity did not come with tidings of great joy, but with a message of eternal grief. It came with the threat of everlasting torture on its lips. It meant war on earth and perdition hereafter.

It taught some good things -- the beauty of love and kindness in man. But as a torch-bearer, as a bringer of joy, it has been a failure. It has given infinite consequences to the acts of finite beings, crushing the soul with a responsibility too great for mortals to bear. It has filled the future with fear and flame, and made God the keeper of an eternal penitentiary, destined to be the home of nearly all the sons of men. Not satisfied with that, it has deprived God of the pardoning power.

And yet it may have done some good by borrowing from the Pagan world the old festival called Christmas.

Long before Christ was born the Sun-God triumphed over the powers of Darkness. About the time that we call Christmas the days begin perceptibly to lengthen. Our barbarian ancestors were worshipers of the sun, and they celebrated his victory over the hosts of night. Such a festival was natural and beautiful. The most natural of all religions is the worship of the sun. Christianity adopted this festival. It borrowed from the Pagans the best it has.

I believe in Christmas and in every day that has been set apart for joy. We in America have too much work and not enough play. We are too much like the English.

I think it was Heinrich Heine who said that he thought a blaspheming Frenchman was a more pleasing object to God than a praying Englishman. We take our joys too sadly. I am in favor of all the good free days -- the more the better.

Christmas is a good day to forgive and forget -- a good day to throw away prejudices and hatreds -- a good day to fill your heart and your house, and the hearts and houses of others, with sunshine.

Robert G. Ingersoll.
2:10 pm
[owenkellogg]
Wednesday, April 13th, 2005
4:53 pm
[dontfearthe]
Sunday, February 27th, 2005
1:48 am
[pyrodragonrs]
Hmmm
I'm wondering if anyone still posts around here?

I've never had any real contact with other deists, but I heard about the religion a year ago after I decided that I didn't believe in Christianity. I looked it up and declared it my religion about 6 months ago...conversion I suppose.
Friday, September 3rd, 2004
9:37 pm
[4dgreen]
My Thought...
I find it very interesting that people who believe in a religion do so blindly. Religion is inherited. And of course it is taught at a very young and impressionable age. Just as we have Democrats and Republicans, religion is passed on through family intervention (brainwashing). I am a Democrat or Republican because my parents are Democrats or Republicans. The same is true about religion. I am a Lutheran because my parents were Lutheran, or Catholic, or Protestant, etc.
I find that Deism is the thinking person's religion. Since I don't find many Desists out there, I can only surmise that that these free-thinkers rejected their "passed on" religions and came to an intelligent conclusion about God.
Tuesday, May 11th, 2004
2:30 pm
[draiochta]
Thought I should introduce myself
I joined this community so I thought I should introduce myself. My name's Ryan, I'm a 19 year old woman living in upstate New York and a soon to be college student (I start in the fall). I've been an deist for about two years.
Friday, December 26th, 2003
6:40 pm
[othersideoflove]
my current understanding of deism is the fact that god is there to control all the necessary parts of life and the universe but otherwise remain unintruded in the daily lives of people and therefore we still have our own will although he still exists. is this understanding correct or am i completely off track?
Monday, June 23rd, 2003
3:38 pm
[a_broken_wing]
Wednesday, May 28th, 2003
6:16 pm
[happilymyself]
Deism misconceptions..
I've found a common misconception about Deism. Some people think we believe that God created the earth and then walked away.

While it's true that *some* Deists have come to believe this, I don't think all do. Deism doesn't seem to specify *why* the Creator never gave us a revealed religion, only that he/she/it didn't.

After all, to believe that a Creator made the earth and then walked away is to ignore the complete lack of evidence for even knowing this much. Do we know that God walked away? Do we know God is ignoring us? Do we have pictures of any of this? Direct writings? Anything at all to prove the willful absence divine beings?

So why do people ascribe this belief to all of us?
Wednesday, May 21st, 2003
4:28 pm
[happilymyself]
Anyone around?
Hi. I just joined. It seems people don't post here often. :)

There aren't many deists left in the world. I guess there never were many to begin with.

I've read Age of Reason (most of it) and it is indeed very good. Thomas Paine is the man!
Sunday, May 4th, 2003
10:10 pm
[owenkellogg]
Thomas Jefferson, Third President of the United States:

“Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear....Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its consequences. If it end in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue on the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise and in the love of others which it will procure for you.”
Saturday, November 16th, 2002
6:54 pm
[owenkellogg]
What would Jesus drive?
Material and existence hating Jesus-hippies unite:
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/local/4516143.htm


Tuesday, November 12th, 2002
6:35 pm
[owenkellogg]
The Age of Reason
Has anyone read The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine? If so, what'd you think? If you don't know, TAOR is essentially centerpiece of Deistic thought.

Though it was penned 200 years ago, most of what Paine talks about still holds true today.
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